Interview with Michelangelo Naddeo

The following interview is posted courtesy of Michelangelo Naddeo. His website can be visited at www.michelangelo.cn Footnotes are mine.

The Hungarians: The Most Ancient People of Europe

MAGYAR DEMOKRATA

2008: issue nr. 35.

Author: Gerhát Petra

A link to this interview as it appeared in the Hungarian paper Magyar Demokrata is HERE.

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Michelangelo Naddeo

Michelangelo Naddeo, Italian researcher, believes that the first civilization in Europe had already appeared in the Neolithic and it belonged to the ancient people living in the Carpathian Basin, the Hungarians.

In spite of the fact that you are Italian, you have been studying Hungarian history for decades now. What led you to undertake research on one of the least known countries of Europe?

Although I was born in Italy, I have had doubts since my childhood that all my ancestors were of Italian origin, and that is because of my unusual family name and my features. This is why I decided to try to get to know as many cultures and populations as possible in my life, so that I could understand who really were the ancestors of the Europeans and where I came from. This explains why I started to get interested in Antiquity. I have always been into archaeology and history and I have been always interested in the history of Bronze Age Europe. I always thought that the continent was not uninhabited before the arrival of the Indo-Europeans and, as I elaborated on this thought, after some time I was faced to ancient Pannonia and its inhabitants.

The Indo-Europeanists will probably be shocked even by the thought of their common history having been called into question. What led you to this theory, which is very likely to astound the people of our country? In fact, in your next book, which is about to appear, you state nothing less than that we are the most ancient inhabitants of Europe…

In the book “Honfoglalás… the Magyars are back home”, I listed some 50 cultural markers which migrated from Central Europe to Central Asia and came back with the Hungarians at the time of the Honfoglalás.1 I have taken two of those cultural markers (art and religion) and I have further researched them through the study of archaeological artefacts.

I have collected thousands of pictures of archaeological artefacts, which prove that a number of pre-Indo-European designs and sacred symbols originated in and around the Carpathian Basin (Gold Idol Civilization, Calcholithic and Bronze age), spread to Agglutinia (Early bronze age) survived in Pannonia (Mid bronze age), and spread again to Magna Pannonia (late Bronze Age).

Those same designs and sacred symbols also migrated to Pazyryk, Altai, at the beginning of the first millennium BC. Later on, they moved to the Tarim Basin, and finally come back to the Carpathian Basin at the time of the Honfoglalás. In other words, the archaeological Bronze Age artefacts found in the Carpathian Basin are identical or very similar to those found in the Tarim Basin by Marc Aurel Stein and to those excavated in the Carpathian Basin and dated to the time of the Honfoglalás. Furthermore, I myself have taken in Hungary and elsewhere dozens of photos of symbols and designs which were bronze age sacred symbols and which, even having lost their ancient sacred meaning, are still to-day used in the decoration of modern buildings.

Thus, are these symbolic motifs and designs still present in our art?

The same Szent Korona2 contains 18 (eighteen) “pagan” symbols which can be traced from Bronze Age Pannonia, to the Tarim Basin and back to Hungary of the Honfoglalás time.

The Hungarians came back to the Carpathian Basin, at the time of the Honfoglalás, with the same symbolic art and with the same Mother Goddess, that they had represented in Europe, in the Bronze Age as a woman in the delivery position, while giving birth.

The famous so-called “tulips”, which appear elsewhere in Hungary, are the evolution of a Bronze Age design, which was the symbolic representation of the pregnant Isten3 Goddess. The Etruscans depicted “tulips” far before the tulips started being imported in Europe. Analogously, the Etruscan and Armorican (Anjou) representations of the Mother Goddess, when the memory of their sacredness was lost, became lily flowers.

Still today, the Hungarians, the Ainu, the descendants of the Etruscans, and most populations of Central Asia unknowingly use the same representation of the Mother Goddess as a decorative motif.

The cultural DNA of the Hungarians kept unchanged along 5 millennia.

  1. This event is also called the Second Entry of the Hungarians into their homeland in the heart of the Carpathian Basin. The First Entry (the conquest) is considered to be when the Huns conquered this area in the 5th century. The Second Entry (hence reconquest) is the entry of the Magyars of Árpád in the end of the 9th century. However, there is serious debate about whether it really was a “conquest”, that is, a military taking-by-force of this territory, since there is solid evidence – archaeological, linguistic and cultural – proving that the people who lived here at the time even of the “First Conquest” were kin to the Huns. In actual fact, there is comprehensive and strong evidence for the claim that the Magyars are autochthonous to Central Europe, and in particular to the Carpathian Basin. Italian linguist Angela Marcantonio says for example of the Finns and their origin: “we know from archaeology that there have been no migrations from the east, and that the coasts of the Baltic Sea have been inhabited without interruption for the last 10.000 years. We also know from genetics and palaeo-anthropology that the Finns are basically ‘europoid’ peoples, coming from central Europe, possibly from the ‘Ukraina  refugium’,  together with the other European populations, according to Wiik (2002). See: Historic Linguistics and the Origin of the Finns.()
  2. The Holy Hungarian Crown.()
  3. ‘God’ in Hungarian, a gender non-specific word.()
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3 Comments

  1. I have one very strong supporting fact about the common Finno Ugric presence in Ukraine in prehistory
    The capital city of Ukraine is called Kiev or Kijv or Kiiv .
    In Finnish stone or rock is kivi.
    In Hungarian stone or rock is kő but when declined it becomes kövek követ kövem köved köve, so one
    can see that originally there was a v after the ő in kő.
    So the Finnish kivi and the Hungarian kő is the same word altered after two or three thousand years of separation.
    Kiev keeps all the three phonemes K I V or KÖV.

    I have record and a book called Új guzsalyam mellett Besides my new spinning rod.
    A csángó magyar collection of folk songs which is amusingly and wrongly transcribed.
    One song goes
    Hosszú a hajatok rövid az eszetek
    Your hair is long but your brain is short.
    That is what the toothless old woman selypít mumbles wheezes slurs mispronounces as she
    sings the song.
    It is clear to my ear but the transcriber amusingly and amazingly
    alters
    Hosszú a hajatok rövid az eszetek
    thusly:
    Hosszú a hajatok rivigy az eszetek!

    So to his ear RÖVID = RIVIGY.

    Exactly like KIEV = KÖVE = KIVI

    So the name of the Ukrainian capital city is a Finno Ugric word and was therefor a Finno Ugric city
    two or three or four thousand years ago.
    KIEV Kő vár Kivi castle or burg Stone or Rock city or castle or burg.

    A pair of Ukrainian historian brothers whom I knew in Fredericton NB in the 196Os
    Pidhainy asserted that the further and deeper you dig in Ukraine you find nothing but Finno Ugric lelet fouilles objects remains finds.

    So I hope that these two facts or suggestions that the capital city of Ukraine Kiev was Finno Ugric
    and has Finnish and Hungarian sense meaning Stone or Rock Castle or City and that there are many archaeological signs of Finno Ugric presence rather past in Ukraine will help cement your contention
    that Transcarpathia was at one time not only Finnish but Hungarian.
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    Of course the study of aquanyms or potamonomoi or fluvinyms is vital in establishing the original
    inhabitants and their language in EU or indeed Eurasia.

    Dneister Dnepr Duna Danube Donau Dunaj Don are obvious examples although I don’t know what their
    identical names mean.
    Or Rhein Rajna Rhone.
    Or Tamesis Thames Tiber perhaps Tisza.

    But the Greek word Potamos is suspiciously akin to Po the great river of the Villanovan Etruscan Longobard Lumbard plain.
    P linguistically is akin to F of course.
    Folyó river folyik pours flows. Here the English and the Hungarian are identical PO FO meaning
    Flowing water or Folyó Folyam or indeed the Italian Fiume.
    So the name of the greatest river of Italy is a good Hungarian word Pó folyó flowing water.
    Must be at least five thousand years old.
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    So the plot thickens. The Capital City of Ukraine is Hungarian Kiev Kővár Stone Castle or City and the greatest river of Italy is Hungarian Po folyó folyam folyik flowing river water is what Po means.
    Potamos indeed ποταμος.

  2. Kartavirya said:

    Thank You, Mr. Jablánczy for that comment! You are indeed correct about the origins of the name of the Ukrainian capital Kiev. In fact, You may have found the following articles on the net. Typically, they are in Hungarian. So many articles should be translated to English about these and related subjects. It is vital for the understanding of human history, culture and heritage, and would put a big dent in all the lies, disinformation and misunderstandings surrounding this issue. Maybe one day I’ll find the time to translate some of this material. Until then, maybe someone else would be interested?

    “About the Magyar Metallurgy in Kiev” by Fettich Nándor (in Hungarian)

    “Ancient Magyar Sword Smithing” by Padányi Viktor (in Hungarian)

    Another very much related question regards the name of a northern Sicilian coastal town: Cefalù. Now, Sicily was allegedly populated from the East and its original colonisers were the Siculi, the Sicani and the Elymi. The Siculi and Sicani were (are?!) kin peoples—maybe the Elymi were as well, but I’m not sure. The Siculi came from the Carpathian Basin and their Hungarian brethren are still there, the ancient Magyar Székely people. The most prominent landmark of Cefalù is a huge rock formation that hangs above the entire town, around which the town is built.

    Cefalù, Sicily

    To present-day Hungarians the name Cefalù does not have to be translated or explained, it is simply KŐ FALU: “rock village”. There is even a town in present-day Transylvania (historical Hungary) called Kőfalu.

    Let me quote three articles to support all this:

    “One can identify Székely (Sicul) presence for several reasons among the ancient inhabitants of Sicily. The center of the Sicilian town of Kefalu means in Magyar „Stone town” (Kő falu), which is accurate, considering the huge mountain of rock in the center of this town. The names Sicily and Sicul and also the name Sican go back to Székely (Sicul) origins. These were two of the three ancient inhabitants. Mr. Tiffany’s article about the underground churches of Malta also points to Sicilian inhabitants.

    Here we are only one step away from Egypt. The Magyar pyramids serve as solution to the secrets of Egyptian pyramids, which is only possible through the knowledge of the Magyar culture.”

    […]

    Some years ago, in Agrigento, a 500,000 year-old human skull was found. At the time of this find, the skull of the „Mandrascava girl” was the oldest, intact human skull. Further research showed that the people of Sicily lived under very organized circumstances around 10,000 B.C. On the hills of Pellegrino, near Palermo, in the cave of Addura, this culture is estimated to be 8,000 years old and scientists surmise that it evolved into a culture similar to that of Central and Western Europe. In spite of this, they still did not establish whence this culture came to Sicily, from the North or the West.[33]

    The Siculs and Sicans, who were the name-givers of this island, began the foundation of this society in 5,000 B.C., according to presently popular opinions. By 2,000 B.C., three languages had evolved here: in the West the Sican language, Elymian in the North West and the Sicul language in the East. The scant remnants of these cultures can still be found. For example the large stone memorial which was dedicated to Diana in Kefalu was probably erected by the Sicans.

    This land was later colonized around 900 B.C. by the Phoenicians who also founded Carthage in North Africa, and later the cities of Mozia, Solunto and Palermo in Sicily.

    http://www.magtudin.org/Dr.%20Kimball.htm

    “The founding of Sicily is attributed to the Sicul people who are related to the Siculs of the Carpathian. They originated in the Göcsej region of Hungary. In this way we have to count among the Sicul fairy castles not only the ones in Erdély (Transylvania) but in Sicily as well. According to legend Morgan was able to fly. At the time this legend was born, people did not know that, in the city of Addura in Sicily, there is a cave drawing depicting human figures in an apparently gravity free environment, flying without wings. This art came to light during World War II., when an explosion opened up the cave and brought this drawing into the open.”

    http://www.magtudin.org/Arthur%20part%203.htm

    “A recounting of the fate of Locri encapsulates a prototypical account of the great cities that emerged from the Greek colonization of South Italy and Sicily. The cities began to flourish during the Seventh Century B. C. E. By best estimates, the Greek colonizers established Locri at the site of the current excavations during the decade of 670 B. C. E. When they began their settlement, they arranged the terms of their inhabitation with the indigenous people, the Siculs. [Hence, the Siculs were already there when the Greeks arrived. /Kartavirya] The Siculs moved to the hinterland, and their availability as laborers contributed to the rapid growth of Locri, which then established a number of sub-colonies on both coasts of the Calabrian peninsula. Writers who left the bits of record of the city acclaim the colony as a well-ordered city, crediting its leaders with having produced one of the first written sets of municipal laws. Like other cities in Magna Grecia, as the colonies of Sicily and Italy were known, Locri constantly battled with other colonies; particularly with Reggio and Crotone. The leaders of the city effected an alliance with Dionysius, the tyrant of Siracusa, during the early part of the IVth century, B. C. E. That alliance proved to be a major mistake when Dionysius’ son assumed power. The people of Locri eventually overthrew Dionysius the younger, but the decline of the city could not be abated. In the two following centuries, the city was constantly involved in the wars during which the Romans took control of Southern Italy and Sicily. By the end of the IIIrd century, B. C. E., Locri was a Roman city.”

    http://www.sersale.org/mancuso/ital02fr.html

  3. laving said:

    is it possible if we are to believe the story that the descendants of cux parties with Rama founder of Hinduism are back in the form of indo European at their point of origin?

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