Interview with Michelangelo Naddeo

What proofs do you have for your theories?

The archaeologists have fractioned the ancient world into thousands of different cultures. A culture differs from another one, in their mind, when it is identical to the other one,  but some pottery is different  in colour, or size, or shape, or whatever.  Two cultures are often considered different cultures, even having the same pottery, simply because they are located at different sides of a political border!

Instead, the criterion I used in my research is the other way round:  my research groups different cultures in a single civilization, if they had enough in common. Example: the Ukrainians have done a good job by saying that the Trypillia culture extended from Western Ukraine to Eastern Italy (i.e the territory of the Gold Idol civilization). However, they did a poor job when they gave a name to the “Stanovo culture”. I have been unable to find Stanovo in a map, but I found out that it is some tenths of kilometres from the eastern border of present day Hungary. The most famous finds of this culture are shown at the left (2000 B.C.) and right side of this page (1250 B.C.). [see these images HERE] These finds are identical to other artefacts excavated in the Carpathian Basin. The Stanovo culture is therefore part of the Bronze Age Pannonico Civilization.

If you use my criterion you find out that the pre-Indo-European culture in Europe originated in Central Europe, in the territory of the Gold Idol Civilization, evolved into the Agglutinia civilization, survived in Pannonia, expanded to Magna Pannonia, and was finally replaced in the mid of the 1st millennium B.C. (not earlier than that!) by the culture of the new comers: the Indo-Europeans.

Who were the Indo-Europeans?

The Indo-Europeans are a ghost population. If you ask a geneticist if he knows a single gene that can be associated to the Indo-Europeans, he shall reply that he is unable to give you a dependable answer. If you ask a linguist a definition of “Indo-Europeans”, he shall tell you that the Indo-Europeans are the speakers of an Indo-European “dialect”: in other words, a Chinese living in Hong Kong is an Indo-European. If you ask a historian where did the Indo-Europeans come from, he shall list you some dozens of places in Eurasia that, at a time, have been candidates as Urheimat (places of origin) of the Indo-Europeans. The best definition of “Indo-Europeans” is the one of Francisco Vilar: “nomadic, war faring, shepherds”. The Indo-Europeans did not have a civilization, nor an art, or a religion, or a technology: if they had had one, it would have been easy to trace it to its origin.

They only had a language! Indo-Europeanism is the religious rite of studying a sacred language.

The Indo-Europeans may be recognized in Europe by the fact that they brought cremation and that they made the European societies shift from matriarchal to patriarchal, from peace loving to war faring, from democratic to tyrannical, from egalitarianism to slavery, from solidarity to aggressive competition, from protective Mother Goddesses to Father Bosses. At the same time, mid of the first millennium B.C., the European symbolic art became figural, the Pannonico Gods became anthropomorphic, war became permanent.

The Art of the Hungarians became figural and the Goddess of the Hungarians became anthropomorphic only after the Hungarians converted to Christianity.

After the arrival of the Indo-Europeans, what happened with the ancient culture?

The ancient European civilization was brought, by the Hungarians that had migrated around 1000 B.C. to the Tarim Basin, to a huge area around them, along the northern Silk Road that they mastered. This explains why the cultures of many ancient Asian populations were so similar to the one of the Hungarians: the Ainu, the Koreans, the Parthians, the Kushans, the Avars, the Huns, the Sassanids, the Cumanians, and the Turks had been acculturated by the Hungarians and may have intermingled with them.

Did Stein’s expedition reports support your theory?

Márc Aurél Stein found in the Tarim Basin what I was looking for since long.

In the book “Honfoglalás… the Magyars are back home”,  I described the Kalash as a matriarchal, egalitarian, peace loving, blond-haired population. The Kalash wore conical hats and their religion is still animistic. I supposed that they were Hungarians. Not far from where the Kalash live, Marc Aurel Stein found an ancient building, which features nearly match every motive of the Hungarian folk art and of the ancient Pannonico art. That building was maybe the place where the Kurultay1 was held. The northern Pakistan region, where the Kalash live and where that building was located, is crossed by the Karakorum Highway, which runs along an ancient route of the Silk Road from Kashgar, in the Tarim Basin, to Peshawar. The Hungarians, at the time of the Silk Road, controlled this region and had markets in it, where they exchanged Chinese silk with Indian goods. Stein’s work confirms my formerhypothesis that the Hungarians controlled the Tarim Basin and also the Passes out of it.

Today, the Hungarian history that is taught in schools states that the Hungarian language and culture originated from the Finns, though a group of researchers has been trying to refute this kinship for decades at official forums. In the course of your research, have you dealt with the question of the Finnish-Hungarian relatedness?

The Hungarians reject on emotional, unscientific grounds the Finno-Ugric theory – a linguistic theory! This is probably because they assume that it has been politically used against them. The humanity is grateful to Nobel for having invented the dynamite, but does not consider him responsible for the massacres caused by other people that used dynamite in war. If the Finno-Ugric theory was a bomb, the Hungarians should not hate the bomb, but those who threw it on them. Furthermore, in the scientific community out of Hungary, apart from A. Marcantonio, there are no doubts about the Finno-Ugric theory: some American Universities house Finnish and Hungarian studies in the same department: the department of Central Asian studies!

My opinion is that the Finns are descendants of those Hungarian “adventurers” that, according to the Metropolitan Museum of Art, in the middle of the 2nd millennium B.C., brought the bronze technologies to Denmark and Scandinavia. Archaeology has found in northern Europe a number of artefacts, dated to the first millennium A.D., which are sometimes identical or, in any case, very similar to Hungarian Bronze Age artefacts. Y chromosomes of the Finns point to a relevant Saami admixture, but the ancient Finns could well have been your blood brothers and they are certainly your cultural brothers.

  1. A Central Asian traditional meeting of tribes. []
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  1. I have one very strong supporting fact about the common Finno Ugric presence in Ukraine in prehistory
    The capital city of Ukraine is called Kiev or Kijv or Kiiv .
    In Finnish stone or rock is kivi.
    In Hungarian stone or rock is kő but when declined it becomes kövek követ kövem köved köve, so one
    can see that originally there was a v after the ő in kő.
    So the Finnish kivi and the Hungarian kő is the same word altered after two or three thousand years of separation.
    Kiev keeps all the three phonemes K I V or KÖV.

    I have record and a book called Új guzsalyam mellett Besides my new spinning rod.
    A csángó magyar collection of folk songs which is amusingly and wrongly transcribed.
    One song goes
    Hosszú a hajatok rövid az eszetek
    Your hair is long but your brain is short.
    That is what the toothless old woman selypít mumbles wheezes slurs mispronounces as she
    sings the song.
    It is clear to my ear but the transcriber amusingly and amazingly
    alters
    Hosszú a hajatok rövid az eszetek
    thusly:
    Hosszú a hajatok rivigy az eszetek!

    So to his ear RÖVID = RIVIGY.

    Exactly like KIEV = KÖVE = KIVI

    So the name of the Ukrainian capital city is a Finno Ugric word and was therefor a Finno Ugric city
    two or three or four thousand years ago.
    KIEV Kő vár Kivi castle or burg Stone or Rock city or castle or burg.

    A pair of Ukrainian historian brothers whom I knew in Fredericton NB in the 196Os
    Pidhainy asserted that the further and deeper you dig in Ukraine you find nothing but Finno Ugric lelet fouilles objects remains finds.

    So I hope that these two facts or suggestions that the capital city of Ukraine Kiev was Finno Ugric
    and has Finnish and Hungarian sense meaning Stone or Rock Castle or City and that there are many archaeological signs of Finno Ugric presence rather past in Ukraine will help cement your contention
    that Transcarpathia was at one time not only Finnish but Hungarian.
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    Of course the study of aquanyms or potamonomoi or fluvinyms is vital in establishing the original
    inhabitants and their language in EU or indeed Eurasia.

    Dneister Dnepr Duna Danube Donau Dunaj Don are obvious examples although I don’t know what their
    identical names mean.
    Or Rhein Rajna Rhone.
    Or Tamesis Thames Tiber perhaps Tisza.

    But the Greek word Potamos is suspiciously akin to Po the great river of the Villanovan Etruscan Longobard Lumbard plain.
    P linguistically is akin to F of course.
    Folyó river folyik pours flows. Here the English and the Hungarian are identical PO FO meaning
    Flowing water or Folyó Folyam or indeed the Italian Fiume.
    So the name of the greatest river of Italy is a good Hungarian word Pó folyó flowing water.
    Must be at least five thousand years old.
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    So the plot thickens. The Capital City of Ukraine is Hungarian Kiev Kővár Stone Castle or City and the greatest river of Italy is Hungarian Po folyó folyam folyik flowing river water is what Po means.
    Potamos indeed ποταμος.

  2. Kartavirya said:

    Thank You, Mr. Jablánczy for that comment! You are indeed correct about the origins of the name of the Ukrainian capital Kiev. In fact, You may have found the following articles on the net. Typically, they are in Hungarian. So many articles should be translated to English about these and related subjects. It is vital for the understanding of human history, culture and heritage, and would put a big dent in all the lies, disinformation and misunderstandings surrounding this issue. Maybe one day I’ll find the time to translate some of this material. Until then, maybe someone else would be interested?

    “About the Magyar Metallurgy in Kiev” by Fettich Nándor (in Hungarian)

    “Ancient Magyar Sword Smithing” by Padányi Viktor (in Hungarian)

    Another very much related question regards the name of a northern Sicilian coastal town: Cefalù. Now, Sicily was allegedly populated from the East and its original colonisers were the Siculi, the Sicani and the Elymi. The Siculi and Sicani were (are?!) kin peoples—maybe the Elymi were as well, but I’m not sure. The Siculi came from the Carpathian Basin and their Hungarian brethren are still there, the ancient Magyar Székely people. The most prominent landmark of Cefalù is a huge rock formation that hangs above the entire town, around which the town is built.

    Cefalù, Sicily

    To present-day Hungarians the name Cefalù does not have to be translated or explained, it is simply KŐ FALU: “rock village”. There is even a town in present-day Transylvania (historical Hungary) called Kőfalu.

    Let me quote three articles to support all this:

    “One can identify Székely (Sicul) presence for several reasons among the ancient inhabitants of Sicily. The center of the Sicilian town of Kefalu means in Magyar „Stone town” (Kő falu), which is accurate, considering the huge mountain of rock in the center of this town. The names Sicily and Sicul and also the name Sican go back to Székely (Sicul) origins. These were two of the three ancient inhabitants. Mr. Tiffany’s article about the underground churches of Malta also points to Sicilian inhabitants.

    Here we are only one step away from Egypt. The Magyar pyramids serve as solution to the secrets of Egyptian pyramids, which is only possible through the knowledge of the Magyar culture.”

    […]

    Some years ago, in Agrigento, a 500,000 year-old human skull was found. At the time of this find, the skull of the „Mandrascava girl” was the oldest, intact human skull. Further research showed that the people of Sicily lived under very organized circumstances around 10,000 B.C. On the hills of Pellegrino, near Palermo, in the cave of Addura, this culture is estimated to be 8,000 years old and scientists surmise that it evolved into a culture similar to that of Central and Western Europe. In spite of this, they still did not establish whence this culture came to Sicily, from the North or the West.[33]

    The Siculs and Sicans, who were the name-givers of this island, began the foundation of this society in 5,000 B.C., according to presently popular opinions. By 2,000 B.C., three languages had evolved here: in the West the Sican language, Elymian in the North West and the Sicul language in the East. The scant remnants of these cultures can still be found. For example the large stone memorial which was dedicated to Diana in Kefalu was probably erected by the Sicans.

    This land was later colonized around 900 B.C. by the Phoenicians who also founded Carthage in North Africa, and later the cities of Mozia, Solunto and Palermo in Sicily.

    http://www.magtudin.org/Dr.%20Kimball.htm

    “The founding of Sicily is attributed to the Sicul people who are related to the Siculs of the Carpathian. They originated in the Göcsej region of Hungary. In this way we have to count among the Sicul fairy castles not only the ones in Erdély (Transylvania) but in Sicily as well. According to legend Morgan was able to fly. At the time this legend was born, people did not know that, in the city of Addura in Sicily, there is a cave drawing depicting human figures in an apparently gravity free environment, flying without wings. This art came to light during World War II., when an explosion opened up the cave and brought this drawing into the open.”

    http://www.magtudin.org/Arthur%20part%203.htm

    “A recounting of the fate of Locri encapsulates a prototypical account of the great cities that emerged from the Greek colonization of South Italy and Sicily. The cities began to flourish during the Seventh Century B. C. E. By best estimates, the Greek colonizers established Locri at the site of the current excavations during the decade of 670 B. C. E. When they began their settlement, they arranged the terms of their inhabitation with the indigenous people, the Siculs. [Hence, the Siculs were already there when the Greeks arrived. /Kartavirya] The Siculs moved to the hinterland, and their availability as laborers contributed to the rapid growth of Locri, which then established a number of sub-colonies on both coasts of the Calabrian peninsula. Writers who left the bits of record of the city acclaim the colony as a well-ordered city, crediting its leaders with having produced one of the first written sets of municipal laws. Like other cities in Magna Grecia, as the colonies of Sicily and Italy were known, Locri constantly battled with other colonies; particularly with Reggio and Crotone. The leaders of the city effected an alliance with Dionysius, the tyrant of Siracusa, during the early part of the IVth century, B. C. E. That alliance proved to be a major mistake when Dionysius’ son assumed power. The people of Locri eventually overthrew Dionysius the younger, but the decline of the city could not be abated. In the two following centuries, the city was constantly involved in the wars during which the Romans took control of Southern Italy and Sicily. By the end of the IIIrd century, B. C. E., Locri was a Roman city.”

    http://www.sersale.org/mancuso/ital02fr.html

  3. laving said:

    is it possible if we are to believe the story that the descendants of cux parties with Rama founder of Hinduism are back in the form of indo European at their point of origin?

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