Interview with Michelangelo Naddeo

The constantly recurring starting point of the Hungarian revisionist linguists is the Sumerian-Hungarian linguistic relatedness. What is your opinion about this?

I do believe that the Sumerian language is tied to all the agglutinative languages, and in particular to the Finno-Ugric languages. Simo Parpola of the University of Helsinki, Finland, stated in July 2007, at the 53rd congress of Assyriology in Moscow, that “the entire central core of the Sumerian vocabulary – more than 1700 basic words and morphemes – can be successfully matched with Uralic etyma”.

What is not yet clear to me is whether the Sumerians migrated to Europe or the Hungarians migrated to Mesopotamia:1 what is certain is that the Sumerian Princess Puabi was wearing ear rings and conical and double spiral idols that were popular in Europe since over 2 millennia, at the time of her death.

Back to the involuntary migration of the Hungarians: where and when did the foreign culture emerge and eventually swept off the ancient culture of Europe?

The first clues of a presence of an alien population in Europe is noted by archaeology with the first urn fields in the Balkans, at the beginning of the 3rd millennium B.C., regardless of the fairy tales of the linguists. The urn fields people brought to Europe cremation: they did not believe that life would continue after death. This people were the Indo-European Celts. It took them over 2000 years to catch up with the Hungarian farming and metallurgical technologies: in this time they did not leave in Europe any other sign of their cultural life.

In the beginning, the Celts were culturally assimilated by the Hungarians. Finally, at the beginning of the first millennium B.C., some Hungarian populations started intermingling with the Celts, who, by the middle of the 1st millennium B.C., became the ruling warrior elites of these new mixed societies. Only at this time, middle of the 1st millennium B.C., the first Indo-European cultural markers (i.e.: war faring technologies, figural Art, and anthropomorphic Gods) start showing up in the archaeology of Central Europe, Etruria, and Greece. In fact, artefacts dated to the first half of the 1st millennium B.C., cannot be labelled, but must be attributed to the Hungarians: those artefacts in fact are congruent with the previous millennia of Hungarian Art in Europe. Artefacts whose design differs from the traditional Hungarian design only appear in Europe after the middle of the first millennium B.C.

Moreover, nobody questions now, at last, that Troy was not Indo-European, but the reality is that, in Mycenae also, all the symbols of sacredness were the same as in the rest of Magna Pannonia.

Decebalus commits suicide

The first Indo-Europeans to arrive in the Carpathian Basin from a higher civilization than that of the Hungarians were the Romans. They had to face Decebalus, a Hungarian, who wore a conical hat. Decebalus committed suicide when he failed to defend the freedom of his people – an ancient Hungarian rite.

What can possibly explain the fact that up to the present no researcher has managed to summarise in some way the history of Europe?

Unfortunately the history of Europe has been written by the Indo-Europeans, while the Finns and the Hungarians were disputing the Finno-Ugric theory, and were unable to reconstruct their past. Gimbutas had already said something similar to what I say, but after her death, the Indo-Europeanists have tried to bend her discoveries to their own interests. Unfortunately, Europe does not have yet its own, common archaeological conscience. Whatever is found in Germany belongs to the Germans. What is found in Russia is Russian… What can in no way be labelled Indo-European is forgotten. What has been forgotten, all of it, belongs to the European pre-Indo-European civilization.

Chauvinism makes that the same ancient European Gold Idol civilization is called Trypillia culture in Ukraine, Cucuteni Culture in Romania, Körös/Tisza culture in Hungary, Vinca culture in Yugoslavia… and it is not even named around the shores of the Aegean Sea, because the Indo-Europeans insist saying that they were already there, and that whatever is found there is simply Greek, or proto-Greek, or Pre-Greek… in any case Greek! Furthermore, the Romanians go on excavating Erdely and find tons of bronze artefacts identical to those that the Hungarians find in the Tisza Basin. The Romanians attribute those artefacts to the “Northern Thracians” (another ghost population known only to Romanian scholars!). The finds of the Tisza valley instead are not taken in great consideration in Hungary: these objects do not belong to the Hungarians…

What do you think is behind the fact that we are not courageous enough to believe in our past?

…the Hungarians have been told that they were a barbaric population, which dwelled in Yugria at that time!

The research I have made should have been made by the Hungarian Research Institutions, which “Nature” has already defined of “poor quality”. Other researchers were too busy trying to prove that the Magyars were descendants of a great glorious Empire, be the Turkish Empire, the Hunnish Empire, or the Turanian Empire.

If ever Europe shall be a single Country, and if ever the Finno-Ugrians shall recognize their common past, the history of Ancient Europe shall be written the way I did. So far the history of Europe has been told as a history of the Indo-European Empires. I hope that one day the history of Europe shall be told as the history of the European peoples, who all, all of them, contributed to the European Heritage.

  1. “The unexpected conclusions here are mainly in the area of increased antiquity ascribed to the original Indo-European dispersion itself, and in the longer residence indicated for some of its subdivisions in their present locations. This would include, for example, developing Greek in its present area since 6500 BC., and Celtic in Ireland since 3500 BC. The antiquity of Magyar in Hungary may be equally surprising: I find it to be a Mesolithic speech that predates the Neolithic entry.” (…) “In at least one major instance the commonly assumed direction of migration of population is reversed here. It is usually stated, that the Uralic Magyars moved into Hungary from an eastern source in the 9th century A.D. I find instead that all the other Uralic speakers expanded out of Hungary in the opposite direction, and at a much earlier date.” [From Grover S. Krantz’s work “Geographical Development of European Languages” as quoted by Susan Tomory.]

    According to Krantz the network of dialects of different regions is understandable to  people living in close proximity to one another. This situation changes according to the distances placed between them. He believes that 10,000 years ago Europe and the Near East was one linguistic network. This view coincides with the one held by the Hungarian historian Dr. Tibor Baráth. Source.

    The research of Marjalaki Kis Lajos, Magyar Adorján, Toronyi Etelka, Torma Zsófia, Nagy Sándor, John Dayton, Grover Krantz and others, proves that civilization began in Central Europe and spread south to Mesopotamia and Egypt, not the reverse. The people who migrated to the south and southeast were later forced to abandon their new territories and return to their homeland in the Carpathian Basin. Source and bibliography. []

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  1. I have one very strong supporting fact about the common Finno Ugric presence in Ukraine in prehistory
    The capital city of Ukraine is called Kiev or Kijv or Kiiv .
    In Finnish stone or rock is kivi.
    In Hungarian stone or rock is kő but when declined it becomes kövek követ kövem köved köve, so one
    can see that originally there was a v after the ő in kő.
    So the Finnish kivi and the Hungarian kő is the same word altered after two or three thousand years of separation.
    Kiev keeps all the three phonemes K I V or KÖV.

    I have record and a book called Új guzsalyam mellett Besides my new spinning rod.
    A csángó magyar collection of folk songs which is amusingly and wrongly transcribed.
    One song goes
    Hosszú a hajatok rövid az eszetek
    Your hair is long but your brain is short.
    That is what the toothless old woman selypít mumbles wheezes slurs mispronounces as she
    sings the song.
    It is clear to my ear but the transcriber amusingly and amazingly
    alters
    Hosszú a hajatok rövid az eszetek
    thusly:
    Hosszú a hajatok rivigy az eszetek!

    So to his ear RÖVID = RIVIGY.

    Exactly like KIEV = KÖVE = KIVI

    So the name of the Ukrainian capital city is a Finno Ugric word and was therefor a Finno Ugric city
    two or three or four thousand years ago.
    KIEV Kő vár Kivi castle or burg Stone or Rock city or castle or burg.

    A pair of Ukrainian historian brothers whom I knew in Fredericton NB in the 196Os
    Pidhainy asserted that the further and deeper you dig in Ukraine you find nothing but Finno Ugric lelet fouilles objects remains finds.

    So I hope that these two facts or suggestions that the capital city of Ukraine Kiev was Finno Ugric
    and has Finnish and Hungarian sense meaning Stone or Rock Castle or City and that there are many archaeological signs of Finno Ugric presence rather past in Ukraine will help cement your contention
    that Transcarpathia was at one time not only Finnish but Hungarian.
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    Of course the study of aquanyms or potamonomoi or fluvinyms is vital in establishing the original
    inhabitants and their language in EU or indeed Eurasia.

    Dneister Dnepr Duna Danube Donau Dunaj Don are obvious examples although I don’t know what their
    identical names mean.
    Or Rhein Rajna Rhone.
    Or Tamesis Thames Tiber perhaps Tisza.

    But the Greek word Potamos is suspiciously akin to Po the great river of the Villanovan Etruscan Longobard Lumbard plain.
    P linguistically is akin to F of course.
    Folyó river folyik pours flows. Here the English and the Hungarian are identical PO FO meaning
    Flowing water or Folyó Folyam or indeed the Italian Fiume.
    So the name of the greatest river of Italy is a good Hungarian word Pó folyó flowing water.
    Must be at least five thousand years old.
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    So the plot thickens. The Capital City of Ukraine is Hungarian Kiev Kővár Stone Castle or City and the greatest river of Italy is Hungarian Po folyó folyam folyik flowing river water is what Po means.
    Potamos indeed ποταμος.

  2. Kartavirya said:

    Thank You, Mr. Jablánczy for that comment! You are indeed correct about the origins of the name of the Ukrainian capital Kiev. In fact, You may have found the following articles on the net. Typically, they are in Hungarian. So many articles should be translated to English about these and related subjects. It is vital for the understanding of human history, culture and heritage, and would put a big dent in all the lies, disinformation and misunderstandings surrounding this issue. Maybe one day I’ll find the time to translate some of this material. Until then, maybe someone else would be interested?

    “About the Magyar Metallurgy in Kiev” by Fettich Nándor (in Hungarian)

    “Ancient Magyar Sword Smithing” by Padányi Viktor (in Hungarian)

    Another very much related question regards the name of a northern Sicilian coastal town: Cefalù. Now, Sicily was allegedly populated from the East and its original colonisers were the Siculi, the Sicani and the Elymi. The Siculi and Sicani were (are?!) kin peoples—maybe the Elymi were as well, but I’m not sure. The Siculi came from the Carpathian Basin and their Hungarian brethren are still there, the ancient Magyar Székely people. The most prominent landmark of Cefalù is a huge rock formation that hangs above the entire town, around which the town is built.

    Cefalù, Sicily

    To present-day Hungarians the name Cefalù does not have to be translated or explained, it is simply KŐ FALU: “rock village”. There is even a town in present-day Transylvania (historical Hungary) called Kőfalu.

    Let me quote three articles to support all this:

    “One can identify Székely (Sicul) presence for several reasons among the ancient inhabitants of Sicily. The center of the Sicilian town of Kefalu means in Magyar „Stone town” (Kő falu), which is accurate, considering the huge mountain of rock in the center of this town. The names Sicily and Sicul and also the name Sican go back to Székely (Sicul) origins. These were two of the three ancient inhabitants. Mr. Tiffany’s article about the underground churches of Malta also points to Sicilian inhabitants.

    Here we are only one step away from Egypt. The Magyar pyramids serve as solution to the secrets of Egyptian pyramids, which is only possible through the knowledge of the Magyar culture.”

    […]

    Some years ago, in Agrigento, a 500,000 year-old human skull was found. At the time of this find, the skull of the „Mandrascava girl” was the oldest, intact human skull. Further research showed that the people of Sicily lived under very organized circumstances around 10,000 B.C. On the hills of Pellegrino, near Palermo, in the cave of Addura, this culture is estimated to be 8,000 years old and scientists surmise that it evolved into a culture similar to that of Central and Western Europe. In spite of this, they still did not establish whence this culture came to Sicily, from the North or the West.[33]

    The Siculs and Sicans, who were the name-givers of this island, began the foundation of this society in 5,000 B.C., according to presently popular opinions. By 2,000 B.C., three languages had evolved here: in the West the Sican language, Elymian in the North West and the Sicul language in the East. The scant remnants of these cultures can still be found. For example the large stone memorial which was dedicated to Diana in Kefalu was probably erected by the Sicans.

    This land was later colonized around 900 B.C. by the Phoenicians who also founded Carthage in North Africa, and later the cities of Mozia, Solunto and Palermo in Sicily.

    http://www.magtudin.org/Dr.%20Kimball.htm

    “The founding of Sicily is attributed to the Sicul people who are related to the Siculs of the Carpathian. They originated in the Göcsej region of Hungary. In this way we have to count among the Sicul fairy castles not only the ones in Erdély (Transylvania) but in Sicily as well. According to legend Morgan was able to fly. At the time this legend was born, people did not know that, in the city of Addura in Sicily, there is a cave drawing depicting human figures in an apparently gravity free environment, flying without wings. This art came to light during World War II., when an explosion opened up the cave and brought this drawing into the open.”

    http://www.magtudin.org/Arthur%20part%203.htm

    “A recounting of the fate of Locri encapsulates a prototypical account of the great cities that emerged from the Greek colonization of South Italy and Sicily. The cities began to flourish during the Seventh Century B. C. E. By best estimates, the Greek colonizers established Locri at the site of the current excavations during the decade of 670 B. C. E. When they began their settlement, they arranged the terms of their inhabitation with the indigenous people, the Siculs. [Hence, the Siculs were already there when the Greeks arrived. /Kartavirya] The Siculs moved to the hinterland, and their availability as laborers contributed to the rapid growth of Locri, which then established a number of sub-colonies on both coasts of the Calabrian peninsula. Writers who left the bits of record of the city acclaim the colony as a well-ordered city, crediting its leaders with having produced one of the first written sets of municipal laws. Like other cities in Magna Grecia, as the colonies of Sicily and Italy were known, Locri constantly battled with other colonies; particularly with Reggio and Crotone. The leaders of the city effected an alliance with Dionysius, the tyrant of Siracusa, during the early part of the IVth century, B. C. E. That alliance proved to be a major mistake when Dionysius’ son assumed power. The people of Locri eventually overthrew Dionysius the younger, but the decline of the city could not be abated. In the two following centuries, the city was constantly involved in the wars during which the Romans took control of Southern Italy and Sicily. By the end of the IIIrd century, B. C. E., Locri was a Roman city.”

    http://www.sersale.org/mancuso/ital02fr.html

  3. laving said:

    is it possible if we are to believe the story that the descendants of cux parties with Rama founder of Hinduism are back in the form of indo European at their point of origin?

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